5 Year Update

I have not been back to visit in a long time but wanted to check in to say nearly 5 years since my nightmare started – I am confidant to say I am now 95% recovered. I truly believe that this toxin took years to leave my body. The only residual effects are 1) bouts of tinnitus from time to time – that seem to resolve themselves. 2) Anxiety – though only on rare occasion does this happen anymore –  1x or 2x a year where I need to take an ativan. What if any long term consequences there are from putting this toxin into my body remains to be seen. After checking back in I am heartened to see that there seems to be more ‘study’ of these effects – though saddened to see so many still having these awful experiences and needing to seek support from a site like this because no one in the health profession believes you.

I know I am very lucky and my heart goes out to those who have not had as significant a recovery. When you are viewing this section of the website – please take heart that not as many people may post of their recovery. When the nightmare is over you simply want to move on with your life and don’t necessarily want to look back.  I can say anytime the topic of botox or fillers etc.. arise in conversation in my circle of peers/friends I warn them openly and honestly about my journey and seriously caution them about the serious and harmful “unknowns” of this toxin. I also direct them to this website so they can read for themselves the nightmares that people experience and no health professionals to take you seriously or help your recovery.

Stay strong, keep the faith and believe that with time alongside whatever methods you find brings relief – recovery is possible and time is your body’s best weapon to detox and mend. Yes, time heals!! Cliche but true in my experience.

God bless Annette for her commitment to this site and to fellow sufferers for sharing their journey. You are not alone!!

Hopeful D

Pain too strong to handle

hello everyone

I am now 2,5 years out and I still struggle with symptoms daily, my weakness is on and off every few days,. My cardiovascular symptoms are worse and on top of all I suffer daily with  pain in my whole body, joints ( even fingers) muscles, head, neck, organs ( stomach , kidneys, heart , liver..) the pain is the worst in the morning but today stays all  day making me cry – it’s  hard to handle. I also have blood vessels hardening. In the morning they feel like squeezing  and its very painful too, It gives me also morning head aches and preassure in my head, feels like its going to explode then everything gets very stiff.  I knew second year pain start to kick in – neurologist warned me about it but I did not expect it to be so bad and in my whole body. I was avoiding any medications they gave me for pain as long as it was possible but at the moment I don’t know if I can live like this.

Did anyone have such a bad pain and found anything helpful ? If my only option are drugs that doctors prescribe is anything I should be more careful about? Will this pain ever go away? I feel like my all bones and joints being crushed and yet my kidneys and other organs feel the same, cant  imagine my life suffering like this 😢

HI,,,,,, my life since botox .

HI,,, I was diagnosed with cervical dystonia in 2015 and given 200 units of botox into my neck…… a few days later I had no range of motion in my neck
!!!  which was very very painful and also I was unable to perform simple task .. such as bending over… and I felt very dizzy when I would look down.

after a month my entire head began to spasm… so ….

the neurologist  called it “anxiety” and started me on a dose of lexapro which made the dizzyness really really bad…

so I was switched to Elavil with zero improvement….

After 2 months of  staying home on the sofa I was very scared and decided to go to a  center in town where the doctors specialize in these psychiatric medicines………. Biggest mistake of my life………………….

I told them.. I am not tolerating the medicines…. and that my neck was the issue here from the botox…………… and the doctor did not listen.. because I was hysterical and gave me Klonopin .5 twice a day.

After 6 weeks on the Klonopin…… I realized this drug was not helping me at all…… as I begin to have balance issues and the dizzyness was even worse.

So…. then I learned Klonopin needs to be tapered! no one told me that. I had never taken a benzo before…………. so when I began to taper…… the dose.. boy….. I was in for a shock….

I had scalp burning sensations.. which I had never experienced in my life.. and I am 57…..

i know my body…

long story short… I took the Klonopin for 3 more months .. after tapering because if I missed a dose I would have such bad balance… it was unreal…. and

I was finally cold turkeyed off Klonopin last Feb …………… and I have been in severe withdrawal from that for 10 months on top of the damage done to my neck from the Klonopin…

My question is…………..will my neck muscles ever return to normal?????????????????? It seems to be the part of my body that hurts the worst………………… and Klonopin effects the brain and the whole nervous system……………….

I am just so …………………………………….heart broken over what botox and klonopin has done to my health and life………………………. and I wish I had never heard of either of them………

I f anyone has experience with t his please let me know.. I see that many are improving and recovering from botox………….. so  I hope that I will too//////// peace to all and thanks you for reading… :)

Chest burning and horrible relapse

Hello everyone,

I am now 27 months out and I did have some times of little or a bit bigger  improvements which did not last long but I was still very grateful to have any.  Unfortunately my nerves don’t regenerate well and mostly autonomic.  I suffer daily from heart symptoms, circulation issues, skin burning, cramps, vission loss, ringing ears or feeling blocked, nausea,  muscles tightness, muscles aches,weakness,  blood vessels pain in legs and arms , hair loss, I am very cold and dizzy, the list goes on.

Today I am very scared because again it has hit me very hard, I’m extremaly weak, have burning all over body, my legs turned blue, can’t keep myself up, I’m completely bed bound since yesterday, but what scares me the most is the burning in my chest, pain in the chest, white stiff hands and feet and the feeling to collapse. My breathing is very shallow and I can’t swallow properly due to weakness.

I feel like having some flu or chest infection, but my temperature is  very low. I don’t know if this is another bad relapse or If I have catched something but It has not been so difficult with my blood circulation and breathing since last time I have been taken to the hospital till now. I am afraid  to go here in UK  to A&E  because Im afraid of any medications they could give me but I will have to if my circulation and breathing wont  get any better 😔

I am trying warm bath with salts, magnesium but It is more helpful when I’m having stiffness, I take Vit C and will start echinecea drops, I have no idea how to fight infection now  if that’s what causing the relapse but I’m desperate to help my  chest  burning and breathing without any steroids or antibiotics , please if anyone have some advice that might  help I would be so much thankful. I am more afraid  to go to the hospital feeling so bad because I have completely lost my trust to these people..

Sending all healing thoughts

VU

qualcuno che è guarito

dopo l’iniezione di botulino oltre a tutti i gravi problemidi saluteche mi ha dato

mi è rimasta la parte destra del viso più piccola

occhio guancia e labbro leggermente cadenti

sono passati 3,5 anni

qualcuno mi sa dire se tutto recupera o se devo rassegnarmi

e se ci sarà la guarigione totale dei disturbi

grazie mille

domanda

buona sera a tutti

qualcuno mi può dire se dopo tutti i disturbi e i dolori che ho passato con il botulino si possono fare iniezioni di acido ialuronico tipo vital della restylane sul viso?

è pericoloso dopo quello che mi è successo?

è meglio aspettare ancora qualche anno?

(sono 3,5 anni e sto ancora male)

o non lo farò piu?

grazie per le risposte

Delayed Antitoxin Treatment of Two Adult Patients with Botulism after Cosmetic Injection of Botulinum Type A Toxin

Hi everyone,

There is article from Hong Kong hospital about 2 botulism cases from injections, they recieved high doses of botox and developed botulism 3 days later, they  went to the  hospital late but antitoxin  was still administered 7 and 9 days later.

They wrote ” In an outbreak of foodborn botulism toxin was detectable in the blood of a patient 25 days after symptom onset. However, simply neutralizing the circulating toxin is unlikely to have clinical improvement if there is saturation of the neuromuscular junction toxin receptors. In these two patients, therefore, the arrest of symptom progression after antitoxin treatment might be because their neuromuscular junction receptors were not fully saturated. ..”

” Patient may present to emergency departments with systemic effects of BTX-A after cosmetic injection. The clinical response of the two patients in this report suggests that antitoxin treatment should still be considered even if patients present late.”

This is only part of the article as I probably can’t post full  in here..

This is really good article because it proves that toxin does get into bloodstream and can circulate for much longer than patients are told. My case and Klaudia’s also proves that it does not need to be high dose to be still detectable in the bloodstream  and not only days but months and even years later. The whole problem is that patients are refused to be tested for it by hospitals and doctors. We can’t stop people to have  injections or manufactures make money but something need to be done to force hospitals to help victims when there is time for it.

Here is arricle abstract.

Sending you all healing thoughts..

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Cold weather and small fiber neuropathy getting worse

Hi fellow soldiers !So I quit smoking around May because I was in a really bad shape and loosing weight especially muscle fat and within a week I started to get much better .The digestive issues gone ,the energy started to come back and also neuropathy got better .I started to get more engage and even was able to help my mom set up her shop and also help at times with ironing and stuff like that .I thought this is what recovery finally looks like.Around September though I got hit with a bout of weakness and was homebound again .Due to isolation ,loneliness and frustration unfortunately I picked up smoking again .While it did give me a much needed mood boost it also making anxiety and nerve pain worse .But what really always makes things much  worse for me and still happened this time around is the cold weather outside .While I try to limit exposure and don’t go outside much and I also try to push myself for some walks because I don’t want to get decondictioned  I’m still struggling with neuropathy so I was wondering If anyone has found a solution or a remedy that helps ?

Research by Sandi Berwick, PDt., MA Completed

Hello All,

It has been while since I have posted to this site.

I would like to share some good news with Cameron, Annette, this Botox Support Community website, and very special members of this wonderful supportive community.

Please read below:

Journal of Women and Aging  (Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group)

Older women’s negative psychological and physical experiences with injectable cosmetic treatments to the face

Sandi Berwick and Áine Humble

ABSTRACT: Seven women (43 to 64 years old) who had negative or mixed emotions about having Botox and/or facial filler injections to the face to reduce signs of aging were interviewed about the impact of the procedures. Impacts ranged from disappointment to all-encompassing, lingering physical and psychological effects, and some women felt abandoned by the medical industrial complex when they turned to it for help with their symptoms. A feminist phenomenological analysis focused on corporeal, temporal and relational existential modes of being. We describe their bodily experiences as (a) commodified, (b) fractured,  (c) abandoned, ( c) reflective, and (d) transformed.

KEYWORDS: Aging,beauty work; body; body image; gender; older women; phenomenology; qualitative

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08952841.2015.1063954

The journal was first posted online August 11th, 2016.

My apologies for the lateness of this posting. I am unsure if I can post the  journal article on line  because of copy right by the Journal of Women & Aging  – I shall check into this.

Nonetheless, all the best to all, and thank you again!

Sandi Berwick, PDt., MA

 

 

 


CIPRO


Please help me. I’m 16 months out and have been feeling much better. I went to the doctor for a UTI and was prescribed Cipro; 250mg twice a day. Before reading the insert, I took my first dose. There is a black box warning on this stuff!! What have I done. I stopped taking it after that one pill, checked for interactions and there are none, but not only does Cipro cause most of the same side effects that we already have, it also ruptures tendons. It’s been 24 hours and I feel ok, but Cipro symptoms may not appear for weeks or months. Does anyone know anything about this. What I should or shouldn’t do?. please any advice Would be so appreciated. I’m scared to death. Thanks everyone. Prayers and healing to all.

Skin biopsy result?

Hi All,

Could anyone who did skin biopsy for small fibre density tell me please your test result if known?

Surgeon who took a biopsy said I have drasticaly low. Profesor who did tests said the norm is 10.7 and I have 0.58…And sample was taken not 3mm but 1 cm/1,5 cm deep.

I wonder how bad it is?

Could anyone who had this test done let me know so I could compare please? Or maybe anyone know more about it .. i would be very thankful.

thank you

VU x

vi chiedo aiuto e qualche risposta

aiuto

sono 3 anni e 5 mesi che sto male dopo un’ iniezione di Botox.

lo scoppio massimo dei disturbi è avvenuto dopo 2 anni e mezzo dall’ iniezione.

sto ancora male.

fino a 3 mesi fa non riuscivo neanche a reggermi in piedi ,ora riesco a fare qualche chilometro al giorno ma mi partono poi le contratture alla nuca, all’occhio , alle gambe e al torace con difficoltà respiratorie.

qualcuno mi può se un giorno ci sarà fine a questo calvario ?

grazie

Good publication on iatrogenic botulism.

Search the site below for botulism. Look for Sept 19, 2016

http://austinpublishinggroup.com/bacteriology/download.php?file=fulltext%2Fbacteriology-v3-id1035.pdf

Good to show your doctors, includes drugs not to take, and some things that have helped the recovery process.

Anti migraine nightmare

My GP recently convinced me to try an anti depressant  – Pamelor/nortriptyline. He thought this would be a good match since it also prevents migraine.  He assured me it was mild, even prescribed to children.  I gave it a try. One 10 mg capsule Saturday night. I woke at 3:30 am with a severe migraine, which I still have and it has been 3 days.  Of course as I did my research, migraine is a side effect. The really scary part is the the half life of this drug is 16-90 hours! That means it could stay in my system for over a week. Before Botox, my body could handle trials such as this. Now , I most certainly react and it is not easy. I know this, but somehow weaken at the possibility of relief.  I pray that one day soon, I can be free of this toxin. From now on , I’ve got to stay  calm, know that my physiology has changed, and say no to drugs!

Has anyone tried Ayurvedic remedies? I’m thinking Asheagandha  for anxiety.

Please let me know .

Leptin

Hi everyone, I would like to ask those of you who have  lost a weight and maybe keep losing fat if you checked your Leptin level?

One of the side effects of botulinum toxin is metabolism problem – in some leaflets even named as Anorexia.

I have now checked mine because I do eat but still lose fat, and my Leptin level is higher causing  my metabolism work non stop no matter how much I eat. What’s weird I do feel hungry which in Leptin high levels should decrease my apetite.

I wonder if anyone else has similar symptoms?