anyone have seen these raports ?

I have posted only few of them, there is much more , some really scary..
Dont know if you guys have seen it before, but whoever didnt might be interested to see..

Suicidal Ideation, Depression, Anxiety, Swelling Face, Laceration, Face Injury, Muscle Disorder, Malaise, Muscular Weakness

This Swelling Face side effect was reported by a physician from US. A 45-year-old female patient (weight:NA) experienced the following symptoms/conditions: skin wrinkling. The patient was prescribed Dysport (dosage: 75 Units), which was started on Aug 30, 2011. Concurrently used drugs: NA. When starting to take Dysport the consumer reported the following symptoms:
Suicidal Ideation
Swelling Face
Face Injury
Muscle Disorder
Muscular Weakness
These side effects may potentially be related to Dysport.
Headache, Urticaria, Swelling Face, Swollen Tongue, Influenza Like Illness, Alopecia

This Swelling Face Dysport side effect was reported by a consumer or non-health professional from US on Jul 19, 2013. A Female , 37 years of age, weighting 128.0 lb, was diagnosed with
skin wrinkling
and was treated with Dysport. The patient presented the following health conditions:
Swelling Face
Swollen Tongue
Influenza Like Illness
. Dysport dosage: 30 Units. Additional drugs used at the same time: NA.
Swelling Face, Pruritus, Eyelid Oedema, Lip Swelling, Product Quality Issue, Eyelid Ptosis, Hypersensitivity

This is a Dysport side effect report of a 46-year-old female patient (weight:NA) from US, suffering from the following symptoms/conditions: skin wrinkling, who was treated with Dysport (dosage:NA, start time: Mar 13, 2012), combined with: NA., and developed a serious reaction and a Swelling Face side effect. The patient presented with:
Swelling Face
Eyelid Oedema
Lip Swelling
Product Quality Issue
Eyelid Ptosis
which developed after the beginning of treatment. The patient was hospitalized. This side effect report can indicate a possible existence of increased vulnerability to Dysport treatment in female patients suffering from skin wrinkling, resulting in Swelling Face.

Rash, Swelling Face, Urticaria

A 35-year-old female patient (weight: NA) from UNITED STATES with the following symptoms: skin wrinkling started Dysport treatment (dosage: 72.5 Units, Single) on Dec 21, 2010. Soon after starting Dysport treatment, the consumer experienced several side effects, including:
Swelling Face
. Concurrently used drugs:
Botox Cosmetic (10 Units, Single)
This finding indicates that some patients can be more vulnerable to developing Dysport side effects, such as Swelling Face.
Oxygen Saturation Decreased, Hypersensitivity, Dyspnoea, Neck Pain, Nervousness, Swelling Face, Feeling Abnormal, Muscle Spasms, Eye Swelling

A female patient from UNITED STATES was prescribed and started Dysport on Aug 18, 2011. Patient felt the following Dysport side effects: oxygen saturation decreased, hypersensitivity, dyspnoea, neck pain, nervousness, swelling face, feeling abnormal, muscle spasms, eye swelling Additional patient health information: Female , 41 years of age, weighting 109.8 lb, The consumer reported the following symptoms: was diagnosed with
skin wrinkling
off label use
and. Dysport dosage: 30 Units (30 Units, Single Cycle), Intramuscular. Concurrently used drugs: NA. The patient was hospitalized.
Eye Swelling, Blister, Erythema Of Eyelid, Rash Macular, Pruritus, Injection Site Vesicles, Swelling Face, Paraesthesia

This report suggests a potential Dysport Swelling Face side effect(s) that can have serious consequences. A 57-year-old female patient from UNITED STATES (weight:NA) was diagnosed with the following health condition(s): skin wrinkling and used Dysport (dosage: NA) starting NS. Soon after starting Dysport the patient began experiencing various side effects, including:
Eye Swelling
Erythema Of Eyelid
Rash Macular
Injection Site Vesicles
Swelling Face
Drugs used concurrently:NA. Although Dysport demonstrated significant improvements in a number of clinically relevant cases, troublesome symptoms, such as Swelling Face, may still occur.
Eye Swelling, Product Quality Issue, Hypoaesthesia, Dyspnoea, Throat Tightness, Muscle Spasms, Vision Blurred, Nervousness, Swelling Face

An adverse event was reported by a health professional on Jul 18, 2011 by a Female taking Dysport (dosage: 30 Units (30 Units, Single Cycle), Intramuscular) was diagnosed with
skin wrinkling
off label use
and. Location: UNITED STATES , 41 years of age, weighting 109.8 lb, patient began experiencing various side effects, including: Directly after treatment started, patient experienced the unwanted or unexpected Dysport side effects: eye swelling, product quality issue, hypoaesthesia, dyspnoea, throat tightness, muscle spasms, vision blurred, nervousness, swelling face. Additional medications/treatments: The patient was hospitalized.
Swelling Face, Anxiety, Hypersensitivity, Botulism, Muscle Spasms, Neck Pain, Feeling Abnormal

This Swelling Face problem was reported by a consumer or non-health professional from UNITED STATES. A 41-year-old female patient (weight: NA) was diagnosed with the following medical condition(s): off label use,skin wrinkling.On May 12, 2011 a consumer started treatment with Dysport (dosage: 30 Units (30 Units,single Cycle),intramuscular). The following drugs/medications were being taken at the same time: NA. When commencing Dysport, the patient experienced the following unwanted symptoms /side effects:
Swelling Face
Muscle Spasms
Neck Pain
Feeling Abnormal

I wish this was just a bad dream

Hi, I was injected with Juvederm Voluma XC in Jan. 2014. I had an indentation and crease that was repaired with Juvederm in Feb. 2014 and March 2014. The filler migrated to my nose area and my doctor used hyaluronadase to dissolve it in May 2014. I was wearing glasses 12 to 15 hrs a day and wasn’t told not to wear them. The doctor used more hyaluronadase June 2014 and it dispersed through my entire body. I own a hair salon and have been doing hair for 40 years. I never called in sick. I was not comfortable wearing my contacs or glasses so I took a year off work to find a doctor to help me. My skin tissues pulled around my right eye when doing any close up work and a muscle pulled in my right forehead when I cut hair, it was very painful. I have rosacea in my eyes and face and my legs,stomach,and back are swollen and inflamed. I have problems swallowing and burning in my stomach and chest.I am still looking for help after 1 year and 9 months. I am seeing an endocrinologist tomorrow because my lymphatic system is not working properly. I found out that Juvederm Voluma XC is crosslinked hyaluronic acid produced by Streptococcus equi bacteria. This bacteria is a disease found in horses. Strangles Disease. I am still living a nightmare but I haven’t given up. I will not give up. I realize this is a Botox Site and I read Katiedaily’s posts about Juvederm Ultra Plus and thought I would give this a try. Thanks so much for letting me share. I am so grateful.

Inadvertent botulism!!!

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Clinical spectrum of botulism.
Review article
Cherington M. Muscle Nerve. 1998.
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Botulism is a paralyzing disease caused by the toxin of Clostridium botulinum. The toxin produces skeletal muscle paralysis by producing a presynaptic blockade to the release of acetylcholine. Recent studies have pinpointed the site of action of the several types of botulinum neurotoxin at the nerve terminal. Since the discovery of the toxin about 100 years ago, five clinical forms of botulism have been described: 1) classic or foodborne botulism; 2) wound botulism; 3) infant botulism; 4) hidden botulism; 5) inadvertent botulism. A clinical pattern of descending weakness is characteristic of all five forms. Almost all human cases of botulism are caused by one of three serotypes (A, B, or E). Classic and wound botulism were the only two forms known until the last quarter of this century. Wound botulism was rare until the past decade. Now there are increasing numbers of cases of wound botulism in injecting drug users. Infant botulism, first described in 1976, is now the most frequently reported form. In infant botulism spores of Clostridium botulinum are ingested and germinate in the intestinal tract. Hidden botulism, the adult variant of infant botulism, occurs in adult patients who usually have an abnormality of the intestinal tract that allows colonization by Clostridium botulinum. Inadvertent botulism is the most recent form to be described. It occurs in patients who have been treated with injections of botulinum toxin for dystonic and other movement disorders. Laboratory proof of botulism is established with the detection of toxin in the patient’s serum, stool, or wound. The detection of Clostridium botulinum bacteria in the stool or wound should also be considered evidence of clinical botulism. Electrophysiologic studies can provide presumptive of botulism in patients with the clinical signs of botulism. Electrophysiologic testing can be especially helpful when bioassay studies are negative. The most consistent electrophysiologic abnormality is a small evoked muscle action potential in response to a single supramaximal nerve stimulus in a clinically affected muscle. Posttetanic facilitation can be found in some affected muscles. Single-fiber EMG studies typically reveal increased jitter and blocking, which become less marked following activation. The major treatment for severe botulism is advance medical and nursing supportive care with special attention to respiratory status.

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Hydrogen peroxide therapy, anyone tried maybe?

Hello all, hope you all keeping strong..
My friend told me about this therapy, I was searching a little bit about it and found many interesting stories , I wonder if you guys heard or tried this?

The human body expels 70 percent of its toxins from breathing. When you breathe, fat molecules combine with oxygen atoms, producing carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide is the most abundant product of metabolism. The other 30 percent of toxins are discharged through defecation and sweat. A small amount of water soluble toxins are discharged through urination. If your breathing is not operating at peak efficiency, you are not ridding yourself of toxins properly. Research shows that shallow breathers get cancer more often. Drinking Hydrogen Peroxide usually helps rid the body of excess toxins, bacteria, viruses and cancers. The acidic properties of fat lower the body’s cellular pH and oxygen levels, producing an ideal breeding ground for cancer. Cancer needs an acidic low oxygen environment to survive and thrive. Your kidneys must work overtime if less than 70 percent of your toxins are not being released through breathing, causing a number of illnesses.

A 1:1000 solution of colloidal silver to H2O2 increases the efficacy of colloidal silver by up to 100 times against bacteria. The increased bioavailability reaction using colloidal silver and H2O2 results in a delivery mechanism that increases adsorption of silver directly into tissues. Dilute the H2O2 to the desired concentration, then add the colloidal silver to the solution. The amount of hydrogen peroxide to use will depend on the type and quality of colloidal silver. The higher the particle content, the more hydrogen peroxide will need to be used. A 3% H2O2 solution with colloidal silver is much more reactive than standard 3% H2O2 solution.

Drinking hydrogen peroxide may cause an upset stomach. Hydrogen peroxide should be taken on an empty stomach, one hour before meals or three hours after meals. Food in the stomach may cause excess foaming, indigestion or vomiting. Those with chronic systemic Candidiasis may need to start with 1 drop in 8oz. of water 3 times a day, then 2 drops in 8oz. of water three times a day before starting a schedule. Do not mix chlorinated tap water with 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide! People with serious problems will benefit from staying on 25 drops three times a day for one to three weeks, then tapering down to 25 drops two times daily until the problem is resolved (1 to 6 months). Some patients take three or four lecithin capsules at the same time they take the hydrogen peroxide to stop the nausea.

As dead bacteria and toxins are released from your body, your capacity to eliminate them quickly enough may cause some pain or discomfort in the kidneys. This toxic overload may cause fatigue, diarrhea, headaches, skin eruptions, cold or flu-like symptoms, and/or nausea. If this occurs, remain at the current dosage or reduce it to the previous dosage until the problem stops. Do not discontinue drinking the hydrogen peroxide solution unless pain or irritations become severe. Discomfort and irritations will dissipate shortly after cutting back on the amount of hydrogen peroxide you are drinking. Continuing with the hydrogen peroxide program will clean out the body sooner of excess toxins. Another method of drinking hydrogen peroxide, requires putting 1 drop of hydrogen peroxide in every ounce of water you drink. If the taste of the hydrogen peroxide is to strong for you, try putting 1 drop of hydrogen peroxide in every 2 ounces of water you drink.

Normal human cells have a lot of molecular oxygen and a slightly alkaline pH. The cancer cell has an acid pH and lack of oxygen. Cancer cells will not survive in an oxygen environment. Cancer and all diseases do not like oxygen. Proper cellular utilization of oxygen requires diets containing adequate amounts of unsaturated fatty acids. Most common ailments affecting population are directly related to oxygen starvation. Asthma, emphysema, and lung disease are on the rise, especially in polluted metropolitan areas. Cases of constipation, diarrhea, intestinal parasites and bowel cancer are on the rise.

Many of the new “miracle” drugs and nutritional supplements used to treat these conditions work by increasing cellular oxygen. The miracle nutrient, Coenzyme Q10, helps regulate intercellular oxidation. Organic germanium increases oxygen levels at the cellular level. Niacin and vitamin E promote tissue oxidation through their dilation of blood vessels. Vitamin E makes efficient use of available oxygen and acidophilus helps re-establish beneficial bacterial flora in the bowels. Hydrogen peroxide is only one of the many components that help regulate the amount of oxygen getting to your cells. The presence of hydrogen peroxide is vital for many other functions as well. Hydrogen peroxide is required for the production of thyroid hormones and sexual hormones, the production of interferon, dilation of blood vessels in the heart / brain and glucose utilization in diabetics.

Germanium is a trace element / mineral, which promotes cell oxygen absorption. Germanium enhances the cell’s ability to generate energy by raising the cell’s oxygen supply. Organic Germanium-132, has never exhibited any toxic side effects. Germanium strengthens the immune system, normalizes high blood pressure / cholesterol and protects the body against cellular aberrations. Germanium stimulates the immune system in cancer patients as well as healthy individuals. The highest concentrations of germanium were found in medicinal plants: ginseng, shitake mushrooms, aloe vera, comfrey and garlic. Russian shelf fungus had the highest levels of germanium. The healing waters of Lourdes, France also have significant quantities of germanium. Germanium appears to significantly enhance the body’s production of interferon. research suggests that germanium helps normalize the body’s defenses in cancer patients.

A single atom of oxygen is very reactive and is referred to as a free radical. We continually read that free radicals are responsible for all types of ailments and even premature aging. Our bodies create and use free radicals to destroy harmful bacteria, viruses, and fungi. White blood cells are responsible for fighting infection and foreign invaders (bacteria, viruses, fungi, etc.) in the body by making hydrogen peroxide to oxidize all infections and invaders. Vitamin C helps fight infections by producing hydrogen peroxide, which stimulates the production of prostaglandins. Lactobacillus found in the colon and vagina also produce hydrogen peroxide. This destroys harmful bacteria and viruses, preventing colon disease, vaginitis, bladder infections and a host of other common ailments. When lactobacillus in the colon or vaginal are overrun with harmful viruses, yeast, or bacteria, an effective douche or enema solution can be made using 3 tablespoons of 3% hydrogen peroxide in 1 quart of distilled water. Friendly bacteria in the colon and vagina are aerobic, while most strains of harmful bacteria, viruses and cancer cells are anaerobic and cannot survive in the presence of oxygen or hydrogen peroxide.

Hydroxyl radicals are formed when super oxide and hydrogen peroxide react together. To prevent damaging the cells, antioxidants and hydrochloric acid (muriatic acid) should be taken if the hydrogen peroxide formula is going to be used for a long period of time. Antioxidants come if different pill forms and in different food types. Antioxidants foods are cranberries, blueberries, aronia berries, pomegranates, etc. Nature’s best antioxidant is a drop of clove oil under the tongue, which contains more than ten times the antioxidants that any berry does. Dentists have been using clove oil as an antiseptic in there profession for ages.

Hydrogen peroxide helps: Adult Onset Diabetes, Allergies, Altitude Sickness, Alzheimer’s, Anemia, Angina, Arrhythmia, Arthritis, Asthma, Bacterial Infections, Bronchitis, Cancer, Candida, Cardiovascular Disease, Cerebral Vascular Disease, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Chronic Pain, Diabetic Gangrene, Diabetic Retinopathy, Digestion Problems, Emphysema, Epstein-Barr Infection, Food Allergies, Fungal Infections, Gangrene, Gingivitis, Headaches, Heart Disease, Herpes Simplex, Herpes Zoster, HIV Infection, Immune Disorders, Infectious Diseases, Inflammation, Influenza, Insect Bites, Liver Cirrhosis, Lupus Erythematosis, Migraine Headaches, Multiple Sclerosis, Parasitic Infections, Parkinson’s Disease, Parkinsonism, Periodontal Disease, Pneumonia, Prostatitis, Pulmonary Diseases, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Shingles, Sinusitis, Sore Throat, Stroke & Memory Loss, Type II Diabetes, Ulcers, Vascular & Cluster Headaches, Viral Infections, Warts, Yeast Infections, etc. Some results from drinking hydrogen peroxide include: arthritis disappearing, high blood pressure normalizing, cancers going into remission, high energy levels returning, bowels regulated, alertness and increased memory, elimination of depression, etc. Hydrogen peroxide stimulates enzyme systems throughout the body, increasing metabolic rate, causing small arteries to dilate and increase blood flow, enhancing the body’s distribution and consumption of oxygen while raising body temperature.

Possible Reactions to using Hydrogen Peroxide include: Skin eruptions, nausea, sleepiness, unusual fatigue, diarrhea, colds (in head or chest), ear infections, boils, or any other method that the body uses to emit toxins from the body. This is the natural way for the body to cleanse and the natural cleansing will be of short duration, as you continue to maintain your program. Above all, even if you must decrease the dosage, continue the program, don’t give up. If you get a cleansing reaction, you may want to increase the dosage to hasten the cleansing. A cleansing is the effect on the body of bacteria dying off, or various forms of poisons being released through the eliminative organs of the body, i.e. skin, lungs, kidneys and bowels. Remember: When hydrogen peroxide comes in contact with virus and streptococcus, it will liberate free oxygen. This may be happening in your stomach. If your stomach feels uneasy, it is only the hydrogen peroxide destroying the virus and streptococcus in your body.

The dangers and side effects of hydrogen peroxide are few and conflicting. There have been two known fatalities in children who ingested 27% hydrogen peroxide and 40% hydrogen peroxide. A 2 year old female swallowed one mouthful of 35% hydrogen peroxide. She immediately began vomiting, followed by fainting and respiratory arrest. She experienced erosion and bleeding of the stomach and esophagus, but survived the incident. She was re-examined 12 days later, her stomach and esophagus had healed.


Taking hydrogen peroxide immediately before bedtime causes difficulty getting to sleep because of the increased oxygen levels at the cellular level. CAUTION: Individuals who have had transplants should not take hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide stimulates the immune system and could cause the rejection of the transplanted organ. Keep hydrogen peroxide out of the reach of children. Store hydrogen peroxide in the back of the refrigerator or in the freezer in a box or in a marked container ( DANGER !!! or CAUTION !!! ).

Drink hydrogen peroxide solution one hour before or three hours after a meal. Add food grade hydrogen peroxide to 8 oz. distilled water, spring water, milk, vegetable juice, or fruit juice. Do Not use chlorinated tap water. Hydrogen peroxide is used to pasteurize milk in most countries around the world. 12 drops of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide in a quart of milk is an alternative to pasteurization. There is an enzyme in fresh pressed carrot juice and bananas that breaks down H202 into water and oxygen on contact. No sugary, alcoholic or carbonated beverages. Drink the hydrogen peroxide mixture on an empty stomach. If your stomach gets upset at any level, stay at that level, or go back one level. Candida victims may need to stay at the Day 1 dosage level for up to 1 week before beginning the hydrogen peroxide regimen. When reaching higher dosages, more water may be used. Deep breathing, fresh air, and exercise are also very important. If you are on a medication, consult your doctor. CAUTION: If any strong solution of hydrogen peroxide concentrate is spilled on the skin, flush the skin immediately with water. Skin may whiten temporarily. Try not to burp after drinking the hydrogen peroxide solution, it is probably singlet oxygen (O1).

 Dosage Schedule Using 3% Food Grade H202 

Day 1………………..1 oz. daily
Day 2………………..2 oz. daily
Day 3………………..3 oz. daily
Day 4………………..4 oz. daily
Day 5………………..5 oz. daily
Days 6 through 12……. 5 oz. 2 times daily
Days 13 through 19…… 5 oz. 3 times daily
Days 20 through 25…….5 oz. 2 times daily
Days 27 through 32…….5 oz. every other day
Day 33 and on…………5 oz. every third day
If the above amounts are to much, back off to an amount of intake you feel comfortable with. Stay at that level until you get the results you are looking for. If the condition is severe, stay on 8 oz. of the .5% solution twice a day as long as you think it is necessary. If you have a weak stomach, try using 1 oz. of 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide in 8 oz. of milk, vegetable juice, fruit juice, non-sugary, non-alcoholic or non-carbonated beverage.

Mix one part 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide with five parts of distilled water (.5% solution of hydrogen peroxide) or use a gallon of water by taking out 20 oz. of water and replace it with 20 oz. of 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide.
 Dosage Schedule Using 6% Food Grade H202 

Day 1………………1/2 teaspoon daily
Day 2………………..1 teaspoon daily
Day 3…………….1 1/2 teaspoons daily
Day 4………………..2 teaspoons daily
Day 5…………….2 1/2 teaspoons daily
Days 6 through 12……. 2 teaspoons 3 times daily
Days 13 through 19…… 2 teaspoons 2 times daily
Days 20 through 27…….2 teaspoons every other day
Days 28 through 35…….1 teaspoon every other day

 Dosage Schedule Using 35% Food Grade H202 

Day 1………..3 drops, 3 times daily
Day 2………..4 drops, 3 times daily
Day 3………..5 drops, 3 times daily
Day 4………..6 drops, 3 times daily
Day 5………..7 drops, 3 times daily
Day 6………..8 drops, 3 times daily
Day 7………..9 drops, 3 times daily
Day 8……….10 drops, 3 times daily
Day 9……….12 drops, 3 times daily
Day 10………14 drops, 3 times daily
Day 11………16 drops, 3 times daily
Day 12………18 drops, 3 times daily
Day 13………20 drops, 3 times daily
Day 14………22 drops, 3 times daily
Day 15………24 drops, 3 times daily
Day 16………25 drops, 3 times daily
For serious problems stay at 25 drops, 3 times daily for 1 to 3 weeks. Reduce dosage to 25 drops, 2 times daily until the problems go away. This may take 1 to 6 months. When problems go away, reduce dosage to 25 drops 1 time daily for a week, then 25 drops every other day for a week, then 25 drops every third day for a week and then 25 drops every fourth day for a week. A good maintenance routine would be 5 to 20 drops a week. The addition of copper to hydrogen peroxide increases the effectiveness of hydrogen peroxide on bacteria up to 3,000 times. Coenzyme Q10, organic germanium, niacin, vitamin E, flax oil, lecithin and acidophilus help increase oxygenation.


I’m having palpitations again, along with some chest tightness, horrible neck pain, burning from the neck down to my whole back and buttocks, head pressure, vision problems, numbness at the back of the throat and feeling like there’s something there that shouldn’t be, difficulty swallowing that is not as intense as it was (but worries me that it has come back), dry mouth despite using artificial saliva, pins and needles to legs with underlying electricity, pins and needles to arms that are milder, pain in the right side of my face and feeling the right side of my lips numb all the way to the chin, difficulty thinking, very tired and very depressed. I’ve been having very weak shaky legs and sometimes whole body tremors, uncontrollable. Sometimes a bit of nausea, but it’s not intense as it was before. Stomach and bowel problems. Muscles jumping under my arms. Anxiety and feeling so, so low.

Waiting it out like this is torture. Anyone has any suggestion that might help?A contact of a doctor that has helped you? Anything?

I have posted before but I’m at my limit for bearing with this, the past 7 weeks have been the most horrible I ever had in my life, and believe me when I say I’ve been through a lot. Any help will be much appreciated. Bless you all.

anyone tried Actovegin?

According to Gulevsky, et al., Actovegin “is highly purified hemodialysate extracted from vealer blood by ultrafiltration.”[1]

Actovegin has been shown to improve the transport of glucose over a plasma membrane and the uptake of oxygen by tissues.[1] This can lead to aerobic oxidation, which provides a cell with access to more energy and potentially enhances its function.[1] Actovegin has large amounts of superoxide dismutase enzymes and magnesium.[5]

I wonder if anyone tried this drug, sounds like a cure for our damage , im thinking to try it, just wondered if anyone already did?

Much better

Hi all, I’ve been following your stories now for almost seven months and I do have to say I feel much better… My third and final injection was in February and shortly after I was very sick, fast forward to seven months later and I no longer have any side effects… My biggest issue was the depersonalisation and anxiety along with vision issues, dizziness, confusion, headaches etc… Depersonalisation cleared up at about the five month mark and shortly after my muscles just started twitching randomly but that stopped about a month ago. I no longer have any of the above issues thankfully and am able to eat and exercise without feeling any weakness. Things that helped me the most were my chiropractor and my naturopath… Don’t bother with any other doctors, they don’t get it. My chiropractor helped me with some eye exercises to help with my vision and kept my body aligned to help me heal and my naturopath put me on a semi strong detox program. The main thing that helped me though was rest, once I stopped stressing so much, I was able to heal, the less I focused on the issues, the quicker they went away. I have to say, I was scared to death but eventually the fear subsided and I feel much better and stronger these days.

loss of brows and lashes completely


I need to ask if anyone has lost brows or lashes? I have lost once then they did regrow but now my skin feels more and more dry and my brows, lashes and hair keep drying and falling out completely. I already have non brows and only fiew lashes, dont know what to do, it is not enough to be sick , disfigured ? Will this ever come back or is it permanent??? I just feel that Im loosing strenght. This is all so not fair..

Anyone diagnosed with Fibromyalgia?

Hi all,

I’m now at 17 months post injection, I think… I’m starting to lose track of it these days as it seems like I’ve been sick forever. I just realized this evening that I haven’t had a pain-free day in 17 months. I think the pain and muscle tension has gotten worse over the last 6-8 months… have to take pain medication every day. I try to get by most days with non-narcotics – tylenol and advil combined with methocarbomol, but it doesn’t really take the edge off, so I either suffer, which makes the muscle tension worse, or I resort to tramadol, which then gives me all kinds of side effects.

I’m so exhausted by it all, I’ve been going back and forth to the doctor to find a pain management protocol that I can tolerate and when I describe my symptoms, what I hear is: “you have classic fibromyalgia”. When I explain that I was healthy, active, working,traveling, social and all that before botox (I went hiking the day before I landed in the ER unable to lift my legs to walk!), I am told that: ‘FM is like that, one day you’re fine and the next day you can’t get out of bed.”

But I KNOW it was the botox! And then I think, ok, maybe the botox triggered fibromyalgia and now my symptoms are a result of FM. If that’s the case, this is what it’s going to be like for me moving forward, right? I know there has been talk on this forum about botox triggering autoimmune diseases and many people have been tested for myasthenia gravis, MS etc. But how many of you have been diagnosed with FM since you got sick? If so, do you believe it? Are you treating for FM, and would there be FM treatments that might make botox related symptoms worse?


The Dreaded Dents

Hi All,

So: I’m in month 9. At month 6, mostly what I was dealing with was fatigue, eye problems (extreme ocular hypertension), and some frankly excruciating joint pain. Well, and terrible dark circles under my eyes, and some what looks like fat atrophy maybe, right around the eyes, especially my right one.

Then, in month 7 (July) I noticed some weird muscle issues in my chin, which like an idiot I agreed to have jabbed with Botox. I am sure this is the problematic site for me, like where the toxin spread. My whole chin was almost totally frozen, which I don’t think was the goal, as it looked very odd. The toxin wore off in June-ish, and that’s when I started having problems. Weird indents, and tiny almost pinprick dimples that almost look like icepick acne scars, but they only appear when my muscles are doing certain things. Believe me, my chin was not like this before Botox … I would have noticed. It’s horribly embarrassing because I’m sure it’s noticeable when I am talking to other people. It’s not hourglass deformity dents like I’ve seen on RealSelf, more like weird muscle issues. I guess my hope is that maybe they will go away because they seem to change from day to day, though looking in the archives here at issues similar to this it sounds like it just gets worse and worse. If it were my forehead I don’t think I would worry that much (I have always had bangs) but when it is front and center on your face it gets to be a bit harder to deal with.

I don’t know if anyone’s weird face muscle issues have gotten better or if there was anything that helped … maybe red light? I have a little hand-held device that I need to use more consistently. But I am feeling kind of embarrassed, sad, and depressed about this, I realize it is not as big a deal as the other health problems but still so hard to deal with.

Studies on Colostrum

I’ve been researching this because I am worried I have a disease called Chronic Immune Demyelinating Polyneuropathy, or MS.

One of the treatments for this disease is something called IVIG, and I’ve read a couple times on this board that it seems to help with botox poisoning for the lucky few who were able to get it.

IVIG is approved in the US for CIDP and some other very rare and extremely upsetting nerve conditions and it treats these particular things with success. IVIG is a “set” of immune factors from human donors all mixed together in a stew that is delivered intravenously. Now a couple weeks ago I was crazy to try this IVIG, I really wanted it because I was very worried at the time that I was going to lose mobility I won’t get back.

But the longer I waited the more I started to think about IVIG. First of all it’s insanely expensive, like 10K an infusion without insurance, and also…it comes from human donors. Their blood. The more I thought about that the more I connected it to the fact that botox is delivered in human albumin. If anyone wants to get really skeeved out one can really focus on the fact that anyone who’s gotten botox has someone else’s blood proteins in their systems that could conceivably later blossom into diseases no one really wants to think about.

So I don’t think I want IVIG anymore. I’m not sure if I would want it even if it saved my life at this point.

However there is a milder version of IVIG in the form of bovine colostrum. It has most of the same immune factors (IgG) that are delivered in intravenous IVIG. It also has a reputation for healing “leaky gut” and has been used to boost the immune system in cancer patients and those with autoimmunity. It is prescribed by oncologists at places like Sloan Kettering. It can have side effects, like anything else, but they should be limited and if they actually do anything. good or bad, it might provide you with some information about what’s going on with you.

In case anyone is interested, here is a starter article:



I’M CURIOUS  what foods are giving most of us problems,

I already had a very limited diet due to IC or Interstitial Cystitis,  it is a Bladder disease so if I cheat and  I eat certain foods it causes me pain or my heart races, also it burns my bladder causing me to feel like I have a U.T.I or Urinary track infection,      My bladder and pelvic muscles become inflamed and it causes my back and lower legs or feet to throb,   it’s basically an allergy in my bladder, so I have always been on a very strict diet and can not take most medications,  this is why I warned my Doc I was scared to get a reaction to the 100 units of Botox he wanted to inject in my pelvic muscles,


3 weeks later I started to sneeze weirdly, meaning I thought I was going to stop breathing,   then my heart was pounding very fast and I was so out of breath,also very high blood pressure, normally low,     then itchy welts under my arms . next a rash,   I was so sick I couldn’t even comb my hair for 3 solid months ,


Foods, and Med’s

I had to stop salt, Beef, milk, breads, butter, Fresh beets,sweet potatoes  I can’t eat cookies, ect….I stopped coffee and many other foods years ago,   but now I can’t eat most of the foods I could tolerate,

breakfast,,,,,,,since march 2015 i only eat 2 or 3 boiled eggs or use light olive oil to cook them in, boiled potatoes fried in olive oil , water only to drink

Dinner:  white rice plain,   plain broiled  chicken, fresh Zuccini, or green beans, or Broccoli,,, Water

fresh… blueberries or fresh pears,

Watermelon was causing my breathing to get worse and I felt very fatigued,  same with other foods,  I was exhausted all day if I ate even a few peanuts, or one cheeze it cracker,  also It gives me digestion problems,

I loved salt and can not use it any more, my blood pressure is out of control and I take a pill 2xs a day to control it,  I also have problems with foods getting stuck when swallowing,


it’s been 9 months and I have improved, I just hope and pray I will get back to my old self after a year,,,,,

I’m also taking vit D and Vit B for the past month,  not sure if the B vitamin is causing me belly pain  so I stopped them for now,

anyone who is having the food and medication intolerance please message me   I used to use Benadryl if needed and that’s causing my heart to race,

Sandy 53yrs

(Boston MA)

Night Sweats

Last injection was almost 2 and a half years ago.  This week I have been waking up constantly with night sweats.  Have not ever had this before.  I had problems with my hormones (less than 40 years old) for the first time  after the last injection, but in the last year this got better.  I have not had the anxiety or depression, but did feel like for about 6 mts after the last injection that I was “on” all the time, my endocrine system might have been affected, but had seemed to get better.  I do still have lots of neuropathy (pins and needles and body parts falling asleep), irregular sweat patterns in the day, fatigue, muscle weakness, loss of urinary retention, etc.  Has anyone else had a problem with night sweats as a symptom later? Did it go away?

Can’t live like this anymore

Hi everyone

i have posted before on this forum after having received Botox in my calf for a contracture in my ankle. I’m at four months now and had my review appointment with my neuro yesterday. He said the Botox is gone from my body and my breathing and muscle weakness is down to my pre existing muscular dystrophy and scoliosis. I must add that these two conditions I have had since birth and ten years ago respectively and they are both non dengenerative. He said all this just by looking at me. He has referred me for lung function tests and to see a muscle specialist. But I feel completely hopeless. He promised I would return to normal but I’m learning now that this might not happen. Considering the circumstances I am actually doing well and I have improved from three months ago but now the neuro has removed me from his patient list as he says that there is nothing more he can do. Any advice would be great m



very scared..

Hi all,

Since some time I experience muscles changes, I was posting about swellings and geting puffy before but now it is quickly getting worse and apart that I look like double sized face its my neck, troat, eyelids and eye muscles swells up and causes me very hard seeing , swallowing, breathing, even inside my troat is swelling. I look like ballon and I have noticed it gets worse after rest, when Im sat down for a while or after sleeping, Im so scared because of my troat and neck the most but also the way my entire face look worse and more oversized, even eyelids, my eyeballs terribly hurts and I feel presure inside them . Muscles look and feels like a sponge.

Please can you guys tell me if anyone had something like this and if it has improved or back to normal at all? Is there anything I could do to help it?

I was waiting for my muscles to come back but I have to say I felt and looked much better when they were flat , I didnt have swallowing problems as bad as I have now!

Hugs and prayers to you all xoxo

Dear members,

Do you know any supportive doctor who understands Botox? A doctor who has helped you understand what is going on in your body? If so, can you please share their names, locations, and how can I possibly be consulted? Thank you very much!

I live in the UK but I’m willing to travel to see a doctor who understand my symptoms. Any help will be much appreciated.

Mouse bioassay

I had assumed the antitoxin was expensive and since the mouse test used it the cdc would not be able to supply the millions of citizens who requested it after their  “flu like syndrome” appeared. But I saw a reference from the 1980s written by a cdc author that mentioned the mouse test was $500   So price isnt the issue so it comes down to politics. If the cdc tested people for BoNT in their blood that would imply the fda approved a horrificly  toxic substance for human use for cosmetic purposes. Which they did. Is in another sub prime scandal that would have economic ripples through the economy? A lot of money would be lost but then again a lot of medical costs would be eliminated. I really think the cdc should have to answer to their policy of not protecting the public health by denying citizens access to this test.

My life is hell

Before the botox injection I was healthy young 29 years old girl. I divorced and decided to make some changes in my life. My exhusband treated me like a piece of shit and I was forced to end  this. I ended this episode in my life with very low self-esteem. No after botox injection I lost not only my self-esteem. I have lost everything. When I looked at my old photos Im crying. I looked like a high class top-model… I will add some pictures one day.

Now I look like a high class monster. I think I could play a main role in some horror movie. In last couple of months I desperately wanted to find something that could help my face back to normal.

I started to visit some polish neurologist. I have tried;

  • acupuncture – no positive results.
  • chlorella – nothing changed.
  • b12 and nivalin shots (10injections) – looked 5% better. When I finished taking them my face soon backed to the pre-b12 stage.
  • ems stymulation – disarter!!! made my face look awfull. After 3days a bit better.
  • My question is… for those
  • who have facial issue. If any of you have tried microcurrent stymulation? It helps a bit or not?